Disc Golf Course Review

Tee signs color coded (Yellow for The Rock)
Baskets are color coded (Yellow for the Rock)
Cement tee pads
Both courses loop back every 9 holes.

Too many long walks, specially between 12 and 13, it's like 1/2 a mile hike.
Dumb hole 12
Rough is thicker than The Graveyard

Between the two courses on this property, The Rock is probably easier than The Graveyard. By itself this course is actually a decent course with a couple of GREAT holes.

Not quite the elevation as it's sister course, but it does have some that comes into play. The rough seemed to be thicker too.

As far as layout, yes, The tee to 10 is right next to the tee for hole 1. This would make it easy to play a quick 9 or play 9 from the Blue and 9 from the Yellow.

But there is one spot that really isn't good. There is a super long walk between holes 12 and 13. On top of that, hole 13 is the worst designed hole on the course. What a let down.

Hole 13's issue, it a VERY hard right turn with a mando. Seriously, you pretty much just need a 200ft shot to the mando, then another less than 200ft shot to the basket that is on the left side of the fairway behind some rough. Sure it's a par 4, it's just not a good hole.

But I do think the rest of the course is fine, but these are the main reasons I only gave this course 4 star's instead of 4 1/2.

Once they get the restrooms built, this will be a good destination spot. I kind of wish I had gone across the road to see if the Yonge house was open. After reading about it I think it would have been cool to see. (see The Graveyard review)

Would I play here again? Yes, because it's 2 courses in the same park and with the amenities, I think this is a decent destination park.

(see my Graveyard review and support a local course sponsor)

Buffalo DCG is a delightful backyard course, packing a remarkable amount of challenge and variety into its sub-5,000' length. Most holes are short and tight, but three holes top 400' and a few semi-open to open holes add variety. I had a great time playing here despite losing two discs.

Hazards include tight fairways, water carries, raised baskets, OB-lined fairways, and one hole where you throw blind from a raised tee over a low scrubby forest into a field. High pucker factor on quite a few holes.

Efficient and intuitive navigation, with short walks between holes, clearly marked paths, and abundant "next tee" signs. Also, each tee sign show direction to the next hole. There were even small signs warning when you needed to cross a fairway to reach the next tee.

Speaking of tee signs, they were excellent. Mounted on posts, the signs included hole number, par, distance, and a colorful hole map showing OB areas. Concrete tee pads on every hole, reasonably sized, level and close to the ground. Nicely done.

Interesting basket locations include one raised on a brick structure next to a flagpole, one hanging in a tree, and several near water's edge. Benches at several tees, including a lovely hanging bench next to the river at hole 11's tee.

Lots of thoughtful touches throughout the course. Stepping stones to cross low areas and streams. Red arrows point to disc retrievers mounted near water carries. Ample trash cans throughout the course.

Significant risk of disc loss when the water levels are high, as they were when I played in February after a heavy rainstorm. Drives can easily kick into the river or over the barbed wire fence to the right of #3's fairway. Rough is also quite thick and thorny, so a bad kick can lead to bloodletting during disc retrieval.

There are a few berms and gullies but overall the course is quite flat. You do not return to the parking lot until hole 18, so bring everything you might need.

Hole #15 is a short water carry through a tight gap with the basket precariously perched on a berm. When I played there was water in front and behind the berm, with nowhere flat to land a disc. In fairness, the water was probably higher than usual after a heavy rainstorm.

Speaking of high water, the stepping stones to cross one of the streams were a few inches underwater when I played. That said, I gladly traded a wet foot for the enjoyment of playing here.

Hole #18 is a scary drive out over a steeply-banked river before fading back to safety. Hole length was listed as 183' on UDisc and this site, but based on my drive the fairway must be considerably longer. I partly kicked myself for mis-judging distance, but knowing the correct distance might have saved me a disc.

Buffalo DGC proves that short and easy are not synonymous. Despite its sub-5,000' length, the course feels pedal to the metal with the challenges dialed up to 11 (gratuitous 'Spinal Tap' reference).

Most baskets were Dynamic Patriots but a few temp baskets were also in use. I noticed a freshly-dug hole at a possible pin location, so perhaps permanent baskets will be installed on the remaining holes as time and resources allow.

The course also has a short layout of 3,448', comprised of natural tees marked with flags. Permanent short tees would be a lovely addition to an already fine course. Please support deserving private courses when you can!

When I texted for approval to play here, the owner responded quickly and included an electronic waiver form. Cash box at the first tee for donations. Easy peasy.

A total bomber course that you can play at night.

-Amenities: Golf tees (multiple sets), nice custom DISCatchers with numbers and flags. Cart paths, next tee indicators. Pro shop.

-Night Golf: The course is lit by stadium lights, so you can play after dark. Glow discs aren't needed, though my feeling after throwing a couple of holes was that it would be wiser to use the brighter colors in my bag to avoid long searches.

-Distance: This is truly the place to rip. Ten holes over 400', with eight of those over 600'. Nothing under 300'. Talk about bombs away.

-Passing Golfers: When frolf and bolf interact, I often find myself playing much faster than the people with clubs. That was certainly the case here, even after dark. However, the way this course is laid out makes it easy to pass golfers because the disc golf holes don't throw over any greens. So wait until the group ahead of you is putting out, then finish the disc golf holes (whose basket is either well short or well wide of the green) and quickly run to the next hole and tee off. Seemed to cause minimal delays for all involved the multiple times I tried this trick.

-Shot Shaping/Gameplay: Distance is the main challenge. However, there are also a few holes playing around water. It's easy enough to avoid if using care, but adds a butt-clenching element to already-long drives. A very select handful of trees present extremely basic obstacles. Baskets on slopes again add a very basic level of complication. I have much more to say about gameplay in Cons.

-Snoozefest: Other than avoiding single fairway trees and lakes, there's little to no interesting shaping at play here. If you can throw far, you'll do fine without much care for the flight path of discs. Rarely have I been so unimpressed by a course's gameplay. There is no strategy, no shaping, and scarcely any variation from hole to hole.

-Trek: This one plays really long on foot. The holes themselves are quite lengthy, and there are definitely some transitions designed for carts instead of walking.

-Bolf/Frolf Interaction: I know I mentioned above that this is an easier-than-average bolf course on which to pass, but it's still a drag to wait on bolf groups. Also, much more risk from a stray ball than a stray disc as well.

-Price: I can't remember the exact fee, but it was in the upper teens for an underwhelming experience.

-Not Beginner Friendly: This course is going to be both brutal and boring for those who throw less than 300'. For those who throw farther, it will be merely boring.

-Lost Discs: If you find a water hazard, you won't reclaim your disc. These lakes looked pretty deep.

David L. Baker may be a perfectly nice golf course, but it is not well suited to disc golf. Despite a nice addition of baskets, the course offers scarcely any disc shaping challenge, prizing only distance. Personally, I found it slightly interesting only as the means to play my first round of lit disc golf at night. It's a long walk, with plenty of golfing competition, for a measly reward. I consider it only Reasonable.

Color Coded tee signs (Blue for The Graveyard)
Color Coded Baskets (Blue for The Graveyard)
New restrooms in the works (port a potty at the moment)
Plenty of parking
Multiple practice baskets and warm up area.
Mostly Cement tee pads with a couple of turf ones on hills.

Can wear you out?
Road Construction?
Restrooms under construction?

Two courses in one area. Both are heavy wooded. Both are 2 loops of 9. Good mix of shots needed.

Ok, when I arrived, the "Lodge" has been demolished and they are building new restrooms and a new lodge? Also, Google kept telling me the road was under construction, but I was able to get to the course no problem.

Well, in taking out the old Lodge, that removed The Graveyards tee for hole 1. So as a temp set up, you throw across a field to a basket near the entrance surrounded by a few tree's. Then a long walk to hole 2 passing the basket for hole 1 on the way. Before you get to hole 2 though, you will notice why this course is called the Graveyard. There are two graves next to each other on the side of the hill. This is the original land owner who rumor has it was murdered on the 13th step of his home which is across the street from the course. So keep a look out for a ghost haunting your round. If you think you were about to miss that tree and it suddenly hits it, you know he is there.

The Graveyard is a fantastic wooded course with plenty of elevation. The fairways are fair and at least in February, the rough wasn't too bad. The steepest hill has brand new steps someone just put in.

Only 1 tee and one pin placement per hole but to be honest, the course is just fine the way it is.

I uploaded all my pictures I took, look for yourself. This course is just short of a 5 Star rating for me and one of the better, more enjoyable courses I have played in a while.

Would I play here again? oh yea, well worth another visit.

Speaking of which, one of the sponsors of the course is Zoe's Delite just down the road from the course. I ate dinner there after a long day of collecting courses. GOOD burger, good fries and a killer Grasshopper shake you had to eat with a spoon. With a soda and table service, only $18. You can't beat that price anywhere. The girl who waited on me was super sweet and refilled my soda twice while I was eating. So yea, gave her a very good tip.

Multiple tees on every hole, some have 3, others have Red and White combined. Most are in good shape, but several are dated, cracking and small.
Really good tee signs, don't recall if they are at both (all) tees or just the long ones. Hole layout, distances to multiple baskets, Par, everything you need.
Lot's of varied terrain throughout the course, open park style, thickly wooded mangroves, a steep bank leading to a dark water creek, even a edge of marsh area.
The course starts out with an open #1 (with the creek lurking), then you are in the woods for #2-#6, #7 starts the park style holes, with the creek down the left side, those continue to #14, with the nearly hidden #12 along the marsh (which appears to flood easily), #15 - #17 are back in the woods and #18 finishes in the open with a carry over the creek to test you.
Several multi-shot holes, Pars vary by layout (including a Gold layout which is identical to Blue, but 4 shots lower), but 4 Par 4s and 2 Par 5s get you away from the Par 3s.
Nearly flat terrain, so a pretty easy play, unless you drop one in the creek, a bordering canal or the thick rough.
Restrooms at the parking lot, along with tennis courts, Bball court and playground.

Hole #5 - plays from 324' (Par 4) to 835' (Par 5) completely in a tight tunnel of thick mangrove trees. Fairway is only 15-20' wide the entire length and has a couple of bends to challenge you. Luckily I stayed in the fairway, but anything in the rough looks like a definite pitch out. That length of hole is not the issue, but some thinning of the rough sure would be nice. I could see this hole holding groups up on busy days.
A walking path winds through a lot of the park style holes, while you may have to tee across the path, it parallels a few fairways, potentially causing delays.
#17 - all three tees are listed as 200', but the tees seem to be facing a direction different from the basket. It appears the hole had to be shortened at some time and this is what was left.

Oldsmar ranks up there with the other great courses in the Clearwater/Largo area, near St. Pete. Cliff Stephens and nearby NE Coachman are probably most well known, but Taylor Park is another bringing the count up to 4, all within a 45 minute drive.
As I mentioned in the terrain rundown above, the varied terrain changes as you move through your round. The 7 park style holes in the middle being the longest string, but you have to dial in your accuracy to finish your round. Really good way to move through the areas of the park.
Probably the signature hole on the course is the Par 5 15th. It plays 569-859' and tees in the open (along the walking path), then your second has to bisect a row of leafy hardwoods across the fairway, finally your upshot needs to hit a tight tunnel of mangroves leading to the basket. Its a great mix of open and wooded shots needed on the same hole.
Another similar mix like this is #9 - Par 4 - 364-570' The tee shot has to shot shape around hardwoods, turning right at the end, then a sharp and tight left turn to the basket dropping down slightly in a wooded, marshy area.
With possible Ace runs on #3, #10, and #12 there are also a nice mix of distances.
This is probably one of the best collection of courses in Florida and highly ranked in the country. Known for being the home area of The Champ and Calvin Heimburg, its easy to see how they've honed their games, playing these tough courses.

Roadrunner is the longer and more varied course at the Hideaway. Nice mix of tight woods, semi-wooded, and open bomber holes. Short and long tee pads on every hole, making the course suitable for a wide range of skills. I played a mix of short and long tees, but mostly shorts.

Challenges of all sorts abound: distance, tight lines, water carries, and danger around the basket. Scorpion can boost your confidence If you are hitting your lines, but Roadrunner is a beat-down. In a good way, of course. Fairways are fair, but the longer distances and relentless challenge mean that success must be earned.

Hole lengths average 467' from the long tees and 362' from the short tees. Distance variety is excellent, with holes ranging from 185' to 777' in length. Layout passes the parking lot and restaurant between holes 10 and 11.

Amenities were well done. Yellow-banded DISCatchers were faded but in good shape. Well-textured concrete tee pads mounted low to the ground. Benches and trash cans throughout the course, and bridges as needed to cross gullies. Course map at the first tee, and "next tee" signs posted (but see cons).

Low post-mounted tee signs were color coded (black for long and gold for short, which was confusing at first). Signs include par, distance, and a hole map that includes the location of both tees.

The owner and everyone I met at The Hideaway could not possibly have been nicer or more hospitable.

Navigation was trickier versus Scorpion. There were some fairly long walks between holes, and I found myself relying on UDisc rather often. I wish that Roadrunner had the abundance of "next tee" signs featured at Scorpion.

Since Roadrunner includes more open and semi-open areas, the rough was thicker in places compared to Scorpion. Risk of disc loss on the two water carries, and at least one basket mounted close to the water.

I found myself wishing for more elevation. A few holes have gentle slopes but overall the land is fairly flat. Disclaimer: I live in a hilly part of the world so I am probably spoiled.

Course can get muddy in spots after heavy rain. I can hear everyone saying, "Duh", but hear me out. This is that special sticky Texas mud that doesn't even feel like you are walking through mud until you notice that you have grown two inches taller and your shoes weigh 10 pounds each. A minor con, but consider yourselves warned.

The Hideaway is an excellent disc golf destination, with two outstanding courses on site, a restaurant serving very good burgers and drinks, discs for sale, a clean indoor bathroom, and extremely welcoming hosts. Highly recommended by me!

I particularly appreciated the efforts to help first-time players navigate two intertwined courses without confusion. For clarity the baskets, tee signs, "next tee" signs, and even the tee pads were either color-coded or constructed from different materials. Very nicely done.

Roadrunner is the longer and more open of the two courses on site. I had a slight preference for the shorter, woodsier Scorpion track, but big-arm folks will likely prefer Roadrunner. Different strokes for different folks.

$10 to play both courses for the day, as of February 2025. Well worth it imo.

Baskets all in good shape
Tee markers are all there
Mostly away from other park users
Some good elevation and tree's

A few holes you may find yourself with others on the course
A few holes that are just long and boring

This is a 10 hole course with Red and White tee's marked. However they marked them Red as holes 1 to 10 and then White are marked as holes 11 to 20. So is it a 10 hole course with long and short tee's or a 20 hole course using 10 baskets?

Anyways, I played both sets of tee's as that was the only option on that other app. Well and when the tee boxes are labeled different numbers, I consider them different holes.

The park was dedicated in 1909 and has one of the oldest Carrousel's in the country. Really wish it was open when I played. There are many other things in the park dating back years. I happen to LOVE playing disc golf in old parks like this.

You start by the 1955 swimming pool with a shot that throws down beside the park administration office building. There is a creek if you manage to overthrow the hole.

The course then winds it's way around clockwise with hole 2/12 throwing along the creek behind the administration building.

Hole 3/13 throws across the creek with the dog pound to the right.

Hole 4/14 throws uphill along a park road. While not super long, it's hard to throw far uphill.

Hole 5/15 is a good open birdie hole with the road to the right and uphill to the left of the basket. There are a few large guardian trees blocking big hyzer shots.

Hole 6/16 is a good wooded hole along the side of the hill with the park road to the right.

Hole 7/17 is a big downhill shot with the basket under a tree just past an old boarded up building. Don't overthrow or you are in the road.

Hol3 8/18 are the longest holes, you are throwing across a long open field with a couple of large tree's. The pavilion could come into play if you are not careful. This hole also crosses a park road AND the Creek.

Now for the newer holes

Holes 9/19 and 10/20 throw back and forth across a large open area. The tee for hole 9 is back so you have to throw across the park road and hit a gap in the trees before you get to the open field avoiding the baseball fence.

After hole 10/20, you walk back over to the swimming pool. it's not too bad of a walk.

In general, this is your typical small town park course. I happen to love courses like this, not because they are good but because I love old parks, specially ones built in the 30's. I didn't realize there was a carousel in the park till I was leaving and saw a sign for it. Of course I turned around and went back to check it out. Built before 1900 and purchased by the city for the park in 1909, its one of the oldest of it's kind still in working condition.

Would I play here again? Well, no matter how much I loved the park, I have already played the course and would probably skip it. The course is ok and has a couple of decent shots. I will admit I threw one of my longest air shots in a long time on hole 20. I got the birdie on an almost 400ft hole.

Good Tee signs
Good Red Tee's
Multiple pin positions (Most were marked correctly on tee signs too)

Blue tee's had some issues. Most were just small tee pads, others were not so good.
The 3 new holes in the back have temporary tee signs with one missing.
Couple of boring holes

Sometimes you come across a course that is bad and good at the same time.

I gave this course 4 stars because of all the good stuff.

First off, there are suppose to be 2 tee's on most of the holes (the 3 new holes just have one tee each) but the main "red" tees are the original tee's and have the sign next to them. Several of the Blue Tee's were not nearly as good and some where hard to find.

Pin placements. most holes had 2 and some 3 pin positions. The tee signs had a spot to mark which placement the basket was in. I think only 1 or 2 of those markers were missing.

The course has decent flow, there were only a couple of spots that may have been confusing, but there were usually direction arrows on those spots.

You start off with a shot into the tree's. Nice warm up hole.

2nd hole has you throwing over a pond with the basket dangerously close to the water. Well if it is in that pin position at the time as I was for me.

Hole 3 I could have done without. Long mostly open shot.

In the long position, hole 4 was actually a good risk reward hole and might be one of the best holes on the course. In the short position it's a regular hole, but in any of the other 3 pin positions, the hole is 600ft with 200ft of pond to the right and the dam and rough in front of the pins to navigate over. Key here is to land shot of the pond for a long layup.

the next several holes wonder though the tree's with elevation on several of the holes.

I do have an issue with hole 8, it's a big turnover shot up a hill. Fantastic hole, however the fallout zone is the road. Never a good idea.

After hole 10 you have 3 newer holes though the woods. These are shorter, but tight and only have 1 pin and one tee.

Now for the last 3 holes to get back to the parking lot. Hole 19 is a long boring hole over a field. You are teeing off from a walking path that was in heavy use as I was trying to play early on a Saturday morning. The B pin position on this hole would be horrible as it really puts the walking path into play.

Hole 20 also uses the walking path as your tee boxes. But in this case you have a narrow fairway with a tree line/hill on the right with a hidden fenced in maintenance area and that walking path to the left in your fall out zone. The shorter pin positions are a little safer, but the long it was in as I played it was dangerous and I had to wait for walkers to pass to throw.

So, minus a couple of holes, this course is fun to play.

Would I play here again? Yea I would, even with the design flaws. but for the general public this course is on the dangerous side.

This is a great design! Stopped in on a trip through the area and will be back if possible. There's a lot of technical shots though the woods but nothing impossible. It offers a fair challenge for intermediate or experience players. If you enjoy playing close the water this course is for you. A fair amount of the baskets are close to the lake, but if you want to lay up and play safe you can too. The course was kept up and in good shape. Navigation was easy and the course flowed well.

If you're scared of playing close to water don't come. Hardly a con, but bring water discs with.
There were no restrooms at the parking area.

Beautiful views.
Beautiful course.
Will return.

This course offers a lot of variety on distance. 2 baskets and/or 2 tees on most holes. The baskets are in nice shape, good Disccatchers. The tee signs are accurate and helpful as is the map at the start. The fairways were kept up and decent. The triple Mando on 9 was an interesting shot and something different you don't see a lot.

Walking, walking and more walking. Around 1,300 ft from 9 basket to 10 tee. Recorded about 3 mi of walking for one round.
This course seems like it wasted a lot wooded areas. It's like the designers hated throwing through wooded areas. It's just one open shot after another with a few trees inside the circle offering a bit of a challenge. The few that do go though the woods barely have a legit line and are more poke and hope.

The navigation would improve a lot with just a simple marker on the baskets for "Next Tee". This property is large enough you could almost fit another course in if the woods were properly used.
This course is nice enough I would come play some if I lived in the area but not special enough to drive far out of the way for.